E-mail to XX Sports Radio Re: Arizona’s Immigration Law

5/3/10

Hello Darren and Marty,

Recently, you interviewed Adrian Gonzalez.

He made it clear that he opposes Arizona’s immigration law, emphatically stating that people should not be profiled and stopped by police simply for being Hispanic.

I do not begrudge Mr. Gonzalez the right to speak his mind. I find his comments to be misinformed, irresponsible, and injecting race into a conversation where it has no place, but that is neither here nor there. He can say what he wants. This is still America.

I do, however, take issue with the spread of misinformation.

You did not challenge him on his assertion that the law authorizes racial profiling in the Hispanic community.

The law does not.

In fact, both the Arizona legislature and Governor Brewer have gone out of their way to make it clear that the law only takes effect once a lawful police stop has already occurred.

The police need to have probable cause for a potential charge i.e. speeding, disorderly conduct, etc. This is NOT related to how somebody looks. Once the stop has been made, the police can then question the person’s immigration status. They cannot stop anyone without cause, and demand they pull out their papers.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/23/video-arizona-governor-signs-controversial-immigration-bill/

I quote: “Brewer said at today’s ceremony that she won’t tolerate racial profiling and issued an executive order authorizing the state police board to develop standards for ‘reasonable suspicion.'”

The AZ legislature was so deadset on this that they amended the law to clear up any ambiguity. See here: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/30/az-legislature-fixes-new-immigration-law/

Some thanks they get, huh?

Whether we want to face it or not, illegal immigrants do try to hurt people, even cops: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/30/arizona-deputy-shot-with-ak-47-by-suspected-illegal-immigrant/

Is there a debate to be had about police overreach? Certainly. There is with any law.

…There is also the little matter of Phoenix having the highest kidnapping rate in the nation…and the continued murder of our fellow citizens, by illegals. (Google the name “Robert Krentz.”)

I wonder when we will concern ourselves with these…trivialities?

And to be sure, those who oppose this law, and demonstrate against it, aren’t exactly peaceful: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/03/torches-smashed-windows-must-have-been-a-tea-party/

You have the right to air whatever content you would like. Mr. Gonzalez has the right to speak his mind.

But I believe you do your audience a disservice when you raise this issue obliquely, and allow outright falsehoods…with no attempt to correct the record.

Furthermore, it saddens me that Mr. Gonzalez, and apparently, the MLBPA, want to punish Arizona fans, and take away the All Star Game.

….They might want to read the polls: http://hotair.com/archives/2010/05/03/two-new-polls-support-for-arizonas-immigration-law-over-60/

If they want to go down this road, they do so at their own peril.

If they want to flip off Diamondback fans (and by extension, the rest of the “evil” 60%), then they deserve what comes of it. Speaking for myself, “we want you back” won’t do it for me this time…

…Since you raised the issue, I hope you can summon the courage to correct the record. If we’re going to have a discussion about this, let’s have the discussion. With facts.

Sincerely,

Michael Knudsen
California Review Alumnus

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7 comments

  1. Anonymous · ·

    I think you need to re-read the law.

    “B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE, WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE PERSON’S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).”

    “REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS ”

    What is reasonable suspicion?

    “reasonable suspicion is evaluated using the “reasonable person” or “reasonable officer” standard, in which said person in the same circumstances could reasonably believe a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity; such suspicion is not a mere hunch. ”

    “believe a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity”

  2. Anonymous · ·

    The has been is beng an illegal immigrant. Therefore, giving the police to determine what an illegal immigrant is. How do you determine who is an illegal?

  3. Anonymous · ·

    By their shoes? Appearance?

  4. Anonymous · ·

    “Arizona law updated with two key provisions.

    for a person’s status to be checked the police is required to make a “lawful stop, detention or arrest” rather than the previous “lawful contact”

    also the phrase “solely race” has been changed to “race” in this provision:

    “A law enforcement official or agency of this state or a county, city,
    town or other political subdivision of this state may not consider
    race, color or national origin in implementing the requirements of this
    subsection except to the extent permitted by the United States or
    Arizona Constitution. “”

  5. Michael Knudsen · ·

    I think you need to re-read my post:

    “Brewer said at today’s ceremony that she won’t tolerate racial profiling and issued an executive order authorizing the state police board to develop standards for ‘reasonable suspicion.’”I quote: “Brewer said at today’s ceremony that she won’t tolerate racial profiling and issued an executive order authorizing the state police board to develop standards for ‘reasonable suspicion.’”

    Let’s see, what could possibly qualify as reasonable suspicion? Oh, how ’bout the fact that the guy you just pulled over can’t speak English…..Or, how ’bout the fact that he or she has no license, or Social Security card? These are just WILD crazy ideas here, I tell ya….

    I love how you can just blatantly ignore the facts.

    1) This law only kicks in once a police stop for a specific reason, i.e. a law being broken, has already taken place. It does not authorize the police to stop anyone and ask for their immigration papers. (They can already do that in Mexico, and somehow that’s ok, but we’ll leave that argument for another time.)

    2) Governor Brewer has SPECIFICALLY SAID that she will NOT TOLERATE RACIAL PROFILING. (Typing large because you obviously have trouble reading.)

    Like I said, there could be potential for overreach with this law, like there is with any law. But to say that it authorizes racial profiling is to engage in wanton slander and dishonesty.

    But then again, it really isn’t about the truth to people like you. “Anonymous.”

  6. Michael Knudsen · ·

    “The has been is beng [sic] an illegal immigrant.”

    No, genius.

    The “has been” is engaging in illegal activity, not being an illegal immigrant.

    “Therefore, giving the police to determine what an illegal immigrant is.”

    No, the determining factor is what is reasonable suspicion of illegal activity. The police already had that power.

    This law does not give them power to go around the street and start determining who the illegal immigrant is. Again, lies and spin. They can’t ask until they’ve already stopped, detained, or arrested someone. Hint: A police officer can’t do any of those three without an articulable fact to support reasonable suspicion.

    If a person were stopped, and the officer tried to give race as a reason in court, a defense attorney would move to strike any evidence gained from that stop. And guess what? The law would support him in that motion.

    This entire debate just proves that there can be no reasonable compromise on this matter with the open borders crowd.

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